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THE MEASURE.

What makes our communities stronger? How do we accelerate change? Throughout the social sector and at Equal Measure, we’ve seen a sharper focus on racial equity―one that intersects deeply with place-based systems change. Join us for conversations with leaders and practitioners to inform and inspire our collective work toward a more resilient, equitable society.

Episodes

THE MEASURE | Jeff Fuhrer

Season 2 | Episode 8
Jeff Fuhrer
, Nonresident Fellow, Brookings Institution, and Foundation Fellow, Eastern Bank Foundation

“The myth, it’s a suite of narratives or stories … simplistic stories that are false and that we all, almost all, commonly use to help us make sense of a complicated economic world. They’ve been used to structure over and over again an economy that provides opportunity to a few and denies opportunity to many.” Listen to the episode

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Season 2 | Episode 7
Marcus Walton
, President and CEO, GEO

“We can have a different place inside of communities themselves as partners, bringing together different sectors … to really start to shape conversations that help us be intentional about creating, establishing, cultivating the types of communities that we want to experience in the future.” Listen to the episode

Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le

Season 2 | Episode 6
Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le
, Co-CEOs, iF, A Foundation for Radical Possibility

“We need to be in this mindset of constant innovation and experimentation, but always in service of racial justice and our bigger vision.” Listen to the episode

Crystal Hayling

Season 2 | Episode 5
Crystal Hayling, Former Executive Director, Libra Foundation

“But there is also a link between activism and democracy. And many times people want to deny that link. They want to say that activists and people who are marching are troublemakers and causing problems. And in fact, they’re creating the good trouble. They’re creating the good trouble that is actually the energy that moves this country forward in terms of our advancement and progress.” Listen to the episode

A black and white photo of Amanda Navarro smiling as she rests her chin on her fist is overlayed on a blue soundwave that is on a blue and purple gradient. To her left is a logo that says "The Measure" with a blue microphone icon.

Season 2 | Episode 4
Amanda M. Navarro, Executive Director, Convergence Partnership

“And what we’re starting to understand is that growing people power is multifaceted, is complex, and it really requires deep, long-term investments and requires deep relationship building, and requires understanding the ways that community power comes into play and manifests.” Listen to the episode

Season 2 | Episode 3
adrienne maree brown, author and activist

“You think of a butterfly flapping its wings, or you think of a bird, a sparrow flapping its wings, it’s one individual action, but when it’s done in community, it can all of a sudden become something quite complex and beautiful.” Listen to the episode

Black and white photo of Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick smiling and looking at the camera, placed on a background with a soundwave depiction. To the left of the photo is the name of the podcast, The Measure, with a blue microphone connected to the 'T'.

Season 2 | Episode 2
Dr. Lisa Fitzpatrick, founder and CEO, Grapevine Health

“But the truth is, it’s our responsibility in the healthcare system to make sure people have access to information they can use and that they’ll understand, so this is really the fault of the healthcare system.” Listen to the episode

Season 2 | Episode 1
Chantel Rush Tebbe, Managing Director of the American Cities Program, Kresge Foundation

“One of the things we’ve seen is that projects can generate community momentum. They can create change, they can build a sense of sovereignty that, hey, we’re going to do something here and it’s going to make a difference.” Listen to the episode

Gerri Spilka

Season 1 | Episode 6
Gerri Spilka
, founding director and past president, Equal Measure

“It was this notion of organizational learning, which really came at the right time for us in that evaluation started hitting the ground. And I will say, organizational learning was critical, as was systems thinking.” Listen to the episode

THE MEASURE. Guest: Clarence Anthony

Season 1 | Episode 5
Clarence Anthony
, CEO and Executive Director, National League of Cities (NLC)

“Our nation and economy would not have come back if it wasn’t for mayors and councilmembers and city managers.” Listen to the episode

THE MEASURE. Guest: Chike Aguh

Season 1 | Episode 4
Chike Aguh
, Former Chief Innovation Officer, U.S. Department of Labor

“In some ways, what’s most transformative is if you make available what’s been available to some folks available to everybody.” Listen to the episode

THE MEASURE. A black and white image of Erica.

Season 1 | Episode 3
Erica Atwood
, Senior Director, City of Philadelphia

“My vision for this was really in line with decolonization of grant making of funding, being able to put money where and with organizations I know really, truly love their communities.” Listen to the episode

The Measure with microphone and photos of Jara Dean-Coffey and Marcia Coné

Season 1 | Episode 2
Jara Dean-Coffey and Marcia Coné
, Directors, Equitable Evaluation Initiative

“The folks that were actually doing really deeply thoughtful, heartful, contextualized, relevant evaluative work did not call it evaluation. Because how could it be evaluation if it felt right, if it was useful, if it was respectful, if it was relevant to the questions that I had answers to, if it was honest and embraced multiplicity?” Listen to the episode

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Season 1 | Episode 1
Angela Glover Blackwell
, Founder in Residence, PolicyLink

“Transformative solidarity has us owning the issues that sometimes seem like the issue of the other, because we deeply understand that their issues are our issues.” Listen to the episode

Host

Leon T. Andrews, Jr., President and CEO, Equal Measure

Leon has more than 25 years of policy, management, and leadership experience. He guides Equal Measure’s vision and commitment to racial equity and intersectionality. Leon most recently served as the inaugural leader of the National League of Cities’ Race, Equity, And Leadership (REAL). As the founder of REAL, Leon led NLC’s strategy to help its members respond to racial tensions in their communities and address the historical, institutional, and systemic barriers that further inequity and racism in our nation’s cities.

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